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Re: Great American

Post by GreatAmericanBagBoy » 10 Jun 2011 06:21

NYSW, i have to believe I am wrong. No way was VM supplying anything west of Onondaga county, especially way out in the Buffalo area. Maybe the Waterville store was an ex-Victory, or a special deal, of else I am entirely wrong.

I do know VM supplied area nursing homes and small general stores with grocery goods. Sometimes delivered in a pick up truck owned by VM. Not sure if that was a direct operation or served via charge accounts at the local store. #424 in Norwich held accounts for area nursing and boarding homes and did make deliveries via pick up truck to some spots. But I am not sure if there was a dedicated food service division.

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 24 Jul 2011 17:49

I had 5, now adding 5 more. Adding to the rest of the 10 Genetti Market locations acquired by Victory Markets Inc. in 1969....(I reported 11, but only 10 were purchased)..

Edwardsville,PA
Kingston,PA
Lansford,PA
Lehighton,PA
Wilkes-Barre,PA

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 04 Aug 2011 15:30

nysw3636 wrote: Former Loblaws (they bought 12 in 1977) are Corning,NY, Ilion,NY, Whitesboro,NY, Little Falls,NY. Need to find the others...
Odgensburg,NY was a former Loblaws...

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Re: Great American

Post by GreatAmericanBagBoy » 10 Aug 2011 13:39

I believe all of the Loblaw's in your previous two posts remained Great American stores up until the bitter end. I believe one or two still run as independent grocery stores.

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Re: Great American

Post by TW-Upstate NY » 10 Aug 2011 20:40

The former Fonda, NY location now belongs to the ages. The building has been demolished to make way for a new Cumberland Farms store to replace their aging mid-80's unit about a block away.

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 04 Oct 2011 18:19

nysw3636 wrote:U Pump em had 14 locations... The ones I found are Manlius,NY, Oneonta,NY, Schoharie,NY, Norwich,NY, and Bridgeport,NY. Need to find the others...
Add Chittenango,NY to the list...

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 04 Oct 2011 18:27

Just an FYI...I'm currently in the process of separating Victory Market's, Great American's, Peter Pumpkin's, along with former ShopRites, Loblaw's, Genetti's, Oneida's locations, etc...to help make it more understandable. There are many missing from the current list on this topic. I plan to incorporate U-Pump-Em gas stations, Carl's Drugs, Victory Video's, Valiant Discount Health, and etc. I hope it works out....

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 09 Oct 2011 21:59

Here is what I have. I thank all that have helped with this. This is just Victory's/Great American's/Peter Pumpkin's/Valu-Way's/former Chicago Market's/former Loblaw's. It should be known that Victory had 100 stores in April, 1929. Locations given with no street info indicates I just know there was a store there. Any corrections/additions welcomed. Feedback is most welcomed...

Adams Center - Great American - 13306 North Street (non Victory Markets,Inc)
Afton - Great American - 154 Main Street (became a Great American)
Alexandria Bay -??
Amsterdam – Great American – (formerly Chicago Market/ Loblaws)
Apalachin – Victory Market– Route 17 (never a Great American)
Bainbridge- Victory Market – 51 Main Street (became Great American)
Baldwinsville – Victory Market – 93 Syracuse Street (became a Value-Way)
Baldwinsville - Great American - 197 Downer Street / Tri-County Mall
Barneveld- Victory Market - East Main Street (never a Great American)
Binghamton – Victory Market – 203 Main Street (became a Great American)
Binghamton – Victory Market – 48 South Washington Street (became a Great American)
Boonville – Victory Market – 158 Main Street (became a Great American)
Bridgeport – Victory Market – Route 298 & Route 31 (never a Great American)
Cairo – Victory Market – 241 Main Street (became a GA-formerly Oneida Supermarket)
Camden - Victory Market -
Camillus – Great American – Camillus Plaza (originally A&P)
Canajoharie – Victory Market – Route 5 (became a Great American)
Canastota - Victory Market -
Catskill – ??
Cazenovia - Victory Market - THE FIRST STORE!! (W.H. Dunne)
Chadwicks – Victory Market - 40 Main Street (never a Great American)
Cinncinnatus – Victory Market – (became a Peter Pumpkin)
Cherry Valley – Victory Market – Main Street (formerly Oneida Supermarkets- no GA)
Chittenango – Victory Market – 540 Genesee Street
Clayville - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Clinton – Victory Markets – 534 Chenango Avenue (became a Great American)
Colonie – Great American – 20 Wolf Road (formerly Shop Rite)
Conklin – Victory Market – 1111 Conklin Avenue (never a Great American)
Cooperstown – Victory Market – 34 Chestnut Street (became a Great American)
Cooperstown – Victory Market – 113 Chestnut Street (became Great American- now PC)
Corning – Great American – Denison Parkway
Corning – Great American – Pultney Street (formerly Loblaws)
Cortland – Victory Market – Port Watson Street (became a Great American)
Cortland – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Cortlandville – Victory Market – McLean Road & Route 281 (became a Great American)
Delhi – Victory Market – Route 28/66 Main Street (never a Great American)
Deposit – Victory Market – Monument St. & Elm St. (never a Great American)
Dewitt – Victory Market – Nottingham Road (never a Great American)
Dewitt – Victory Market – 4459 East Genesee Street (became a Value-Way)
Deruyter - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Dryden – Victory Market – East Main Street (never a Great American)
Eaton - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
East Greenbush – Great American – Route 9 & Route 20 (formerly Shop Rite)
Edmeston – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Ellenville – Victory Market – Main Street (became a Great American)
Elmira – Great American – Erie Street (formerly Loblaws)
Elmira – Great American – Lake Street
Endicott – Great American - 303 West Main Street
Fayetteville – Victory Market – 406 East Genesee Street (never a Great American)
Fonda – Victory Market – 37 West Main Street (became a GA- formerly Oneida Market)
Fort Plain – Victory Market – (formerly Oneida Supermarkets- never a GA)
Fulton – Victory Market – Arterial Highway & Division Street (became a Value-Way)
Glens Falls – Great American – Upper Glen Road (formerly Shop Rite)
Glenville – Great American – Route 50 & Glenn Ridge Road (formerly Shop Rite)
Gloversville – Great American – (formerly Chicago Market/ Loblaws)
Gouverneur - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Gouverneur - Great American - RT-11/East Main Street & Rawley Street (formerly Loblaws)
Grand Gorge – Victory Market – (formerly Oneida Supermarkets- no GA)
Greene – Victory Market – South Chenango Street (became a Great American)
Groton – Victory Market – 1980 Main Street (never a Great American)
Guilderland – Great American – 1235 Western Avenue (formerly Shop Rite)
Hamilton – Victory Market – 11 Eaton Avenue (became a Great American)
Hartwick – Victory Market – Main & South Streets (became a Peter Pumpkin)
Hancock – Victory Market –East Front Street (became a Great American)
Hankins – Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Herkimer – Victory Market – 232 West Albany Street (became a Great American)
Herkimer - Great American - (formerly Loblaws)
Hinsman’s Corners – Victory Market – 1318 Upper front Street (never a Great American)
Homer – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Horseheads – Great American – Arnot Mall 3300 Chambers Road
Hudson – Great American – Fairview Avenue
Ilion – Great American – 4 Central Plaza (formerly Loblaws)
Ithaca – Great American – corner of 2nd Street (formerly Loblaws)
Jamesville – Victory Market – Seneca Turnpike
Jeffersonville – Victory Market – 4897 Route 52 (never a Great American)
Johnson City – Great American – Grand Boulevard
Jordan – Victory Market – Mechanic Street (never a Great American)
Lowville - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Kingston - ??
Lake George – ??
Laurens - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Liberty – Victory Market – 261 North Main Street (became a Great American)
Liberty – Victory Market – Route 52 (became a Great American)
Little Falls – Great American – Main & 2nd Street (formerly Chicago Market/ Loblaws)
Locke - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Lyons Falls – Victory Market – (became a Great American)
Madison - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Malone- Great American – (formerly Loblaws)
Manlius – Victory Market – Seneca Turnpike (became a Great American)
Marathon – Victory Market – (became a Peter Pumpkin)
Margaretville – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Massena – Great American – 207 Main Street (formerly Loblaws)
McGraw - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Menands – Great American – 444 Broadway (formerly Shop Rite)
Mexico - Victory Market - Main Street (never a Great American)
Milford - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Millerton – Great American – Route 44 (formerly Trotta’s Market- now GU Market)
Monticello – Victory Market – Route 42 (became a Great American)
Moravia - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Morris – Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Mount Upton – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
New Berlin – Victory Market – 5 North Main Street (never a Great American)
New Hartford – Victory Market – 79 Seneca Turnpike (never a Great American)
New Paltz – Victory Market – Route 299 (became a Great American)
North Syracuse – Victory Market – Fitcher Hill Road (never a Great American)
North Utica – Victory Market – 352 North Genesee Road (never a Great American)
Norwich – Victory Market – North Broad Street (became a Great American)
Norwich – Victory Market – Route 12 (became a Great American)
Odgensburg – Great American – 1030 Park Plaza (formerly Loblaws)
Oneida – Victory Market – Wilson Street (became a Great American)
Oneonta - Victory Market -
Oneonta – Great American – Route 23
Oriskany Falls - Victory Market – (never a great American)
Oswego – Victory Market – 43 Bridge Street (became a Great American)
Owego – Victory Market – IBM Parkway & Bedle Hill Road (never a Great American)
Oxford – Victory Market –North Washington Avenue (became a Great American)
Painted Post - Great American – Village Square
Painted Post – Great American – Route 415 (Victory Highway)
Phoenicia - Victory Market - North Main Street (never a Great American)
Port Leyden - Victory Market- (never a Great American)
Port Jervis – Great American – Pike Street
Potsdam - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Potsdam - Great American - 29 May Road (formerly Loblaws)
Prattsville – Victory Market – Main Street/Route 23 (became a Great American)
Red Creek - Victory Market - (never a Great American)
Richfield Springs – Victory Market – West Main Street (became a Great American)
Richfield Springs - Victory Market - Lake Street (never a Great American)
Roscoe – Victory Market – 41 Stewart Avenue (never a Great American)
Rotterdam – Great American – Altamont Avenue (formerly Shop Rite)
Rome – Great American – 1772 Black River Road (formerly Loblaws)
Saugerties – Victory Market – Route 9W (became a Great American)
Schenevus – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Schoharie – Victory Market – South Main Street (became a Great American)
Sherrill – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Sherburne – Victory Market – 31 North Main Street (became a Great American)
Smyrna – Victory Market – (never a Great American)
Stamford – Victory Market – 34 Main Street (never a Great American)
Syracuse – Victory Market – Salina Street (became a Great American)
Syracuse – Victory Market – 2107 West Genesee Street (never a Great American)
Sidney – Victory Market – 5 Doran Lane (became a Great American)
Tully – Victory Market – 12 Elm Street (never a Great American)
Unadilla – Victory Market – 90 West Main Street (became a Great American)
Utica – Victory Market – 115 South Street (never a Great American)
Utica – Victory Market – Champlin Avenue (became a Great American)
Vestal – Victory Market – Vestal Parkway
Vestal – Victory Market – 200 Front Street (became a Great American)
Walton – Victory Market – 204 Delaware Avenue (never a Great American)
Watertown – Great American – 762 State Street (formerly Loblaws)
West Winfield – Victory Market – 51 South Street (became a Great American)
West Winfield - Great American - 166 South Street
Whitesboro – Great American – 24 Oriskany Road (formerly Loblaws)
Whitesboro – Victory Market- 113 Main Street (Never a Great American)
Whitney Point – Victory Market – Main Street/Route 11 (never a Great American)
Worcester - Victory Market - (never a Great American)


East Stroudsburg.PA - Great American - (formerly Genetti's Supermarket)
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Re: Great American

Post by TW-Upstate NY » 10 Oct 2011 10:04

Corrections to this list are as follows:

-Amsterdam-was a Chicago Market but also a former Loblaws and at one time was a discount operation of Chicago Markets called Bag 'N Save

-Cooperstown-I seem to recall the 34 Chestnut St. location WAS a Great American as late as 1985. It is now Otsego County govt. offices.

-Fonda-WAS a Great American for many years before closing sometime in 2008. Building has been or is being demolished for a new Cumberland Farms store. I also believe this may have been a former Oneida Market back in the day.

-Gloversville-was a Chicago Market but also a former Loblaws

-Herkimer-was a Chicago Market but only in the shopping center located at the edge of town- I'm not sure of the address. Victory operated a free standing store more in the center of town on the same street as the shopping center and that became a Great American. I'm going to surmise at the time of the sale, they closed that location and combined the two stores in the larger shopping center space which became Great American.

-North Utica-Not sure if this is the same one but there was a location on Herkimer Road (State Route 5) which at one time was a Chicago Market

-Oneonta-Outside of town on State Route 7 which was originally a Victory. In additon to the one listed (which I believe was the one in the Southside Mall correct?) there was also one within the city a few blocks from SUNY Oneonta although the street address escapes me right now. It was actually located right next to the the radio station and the local paper.

-Little Falls-may have been a Chicago Market in the interim but that location began life as a Loblaws

-Richfield Springs-was indeed a Great American and lasted right up until a few years ago when PC opened a few blocks away. The location is now a Dollar General

-Whitesboro-of the two stores, one of them was in a shopping center (Great American) and one was a free standing store that may have been paired with a Carl's Drug-the free standing store was a Chicago Market and I can't recall if it became Great American
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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 10 Oct 2011 14:56

TW-Upstate NY wrote:Corrections to this list are as follows:

-Amsterdam-was a Chicago Market but also a former Loblaws and at one time was a discount operation of Chicago Markets called Bag 'N Save
Ok, I remember in 1976 that both Chicago Markets and Victory Markets were purchasing former Loblaws.
-Cooperstown-I seem to recall the 34 Chestnut St. location WAS a Great American as late as 1985. It is now Otsego County govt. offices.
Ok...
-Fonda-WAS a Great American for many years before closing sometime in 2008. Building has been or is being demolished for a new Cumberland Farms store. I also believe this may have been a former Oneida Market back in the day.
It was indeed a former Oneida Market. My mistake, as I did list that in an earlier post.
-Gloversville-was a Chicago Market but also a former Loblaws
Back to the 1976 Chicago Markets and Victory Markets buying former Loblaws...
-Herkimer-was a Chicago Market but only in the shopping center located at the edge of town- I'm not sure of the address. Victory operated a free standing store more in the center of town on the same street as the shopping center and that became a Great American. I'm going to surmise at the time of the sale, they closed that location and combined the two stores in the larger shopping center space which became Great American.
Ok..will add this and look for address...
-North Utica-Not sure if this is the same one but there was a location on Herkimer Road (State Route 5) which at one time was a Chicago Market
Will look into this. Unsure at the moment...
-Oneonta-Outside of town on State Route 5 which was originally a Victory. In additon to the one listed (which I believe was the one in the Southside Mall correct?) there was also one within the city a few blocks from SUNY Oneonta although the street address escapes me right now. It was actually located right next to the the radio station and the local paper.
Yes on the Southside Mall. I believe you mean State Route 7?...
-Little Falls-may have been a Chicago Market in the interim but that location began life as a Loblaws
Definitely a Chicago Market. Back to the 1976 Chicago Markets and Victory markets buying former Loblaws...
-Richfield Springs-was indeed a Great American and lasted right up until a few years ago when PC opened a few blocks away. The location is now a Dollar General
Correct you are!! This is my mistake!!!
-Whitesboro-of the two stores, one of them was in a shopping center (Great American) and one was a free standing store that may have been paired with a Carl's Drug-the free standing store was a Chicago Market and I can't recall if it became Great American
Interesting...I'll go through my notes as this does ring a bell!!!

Thank you for the information!!!

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Re: Great American

Post by TW-Upstate NY » 10 Oct 2011 19:57

-Yes I do indeed mean State Route 7 in Oneonta-my error. I had referenced NY State Route 5 just above it. It was in a small strip along with a Carl's Drugs and W. T. Grant. Before Interstate 88, that was the route we took between NY and NE Pa. The Southside Mall store sadly became infamous in 1994 when an off duty NY State Trooper was killed trying to foil a robbery attempt.

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Re: Great American

Post by GreatAmericanBagBoy » 11 Oct 2011 13:09

Nice list. Minor quibble- the Greene location did become, and still is, a Great American.

Cincinnatus became a GA but recently closed under the Shur-Fine banner.

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 06 Nov 2011 18:12

Thank you TW and GA for your information!! I'm trying to figure out exactly when Victory Markets introduced the Great American name...1974 is the earliest I've found...

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Re: Great American

Post by GreatAmericanBagBoy » 10 Nov 2011 14:31

Chenango County Historical Society might be able to help. The grandson of the company's founder, (W.H. Dunne) lives in the area as well. They might be able to find out.

I do know the name dates to about the era you suspect. Larger market stores were changed to the GA banner, smaller markets remained Victory.

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Re: Great American

Post by nysw3636 » 13 Nov 2011 17:59

GreatAmericanBagBoy wrote:Chenango County Historical Society might be able to help. The grandson of the company's founder, (W.H. Dunne) lives in the area as well. They might be able to find out.

I do know the name dates to about the era you suspect. Larger market stores were changed to the GA banner, smaller markets remained Victory.
Thank you for the info GABB... Here is a picture of Great American in Cairo today. This GA's days are numbered as Hannaford is in the process of purchasing the property....
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